1 00:00:11,199 --> 00:00:07,420 the oldest and strongest human emotion 2 00:00:15,879 --> 00:00:11,209 is fear the oldest and strongest type of 3 00:00:18,370 --> 00:00:15,889 fear the trepidation of young when we 4 00:00:22,269 --> 00:00:18,380 were children our parents told us that 5 00:00:24,939 --> 00:00:22,279 monsters didn't exist but we were sure 6 00:00:29,109 --> 00:00:24,949 that something is lurking under the bed 7 00:00:31,050 --> 00:00:29,119 or in the closet beer sees even if our 8 00:00:33,970 --> 00:00:31,060 eyes are closed 9 00:00:37,779 --> 00:00:33,980 welcome to the realm of your king 10 00:00:40,630 --> 00:00:37,789 my name is lon stripper join me as I 11 00:00:44,939 --> 00:00:40,640 examine unexplained creatures strange 12 00:00:48,279 --> 00:00:44,949 manifestations and remarkable realities 13 00:00:51,580 --> 00:00:48,289 imagine this next hour as a voyage of 14 00:00:54,700 --> 00:00:51,590 discovery to strange lands seeking not 15 00:00:57,729 --> 00:00:54,710 from new territory but for new knowledge 16 00:01:00,660 --> 00:00:57,739 of the supernatural come on board as we 17 00:01:07,090 --> 00:01:00,670 begin this adventure together 18 00:01:12,529 --> 00:01:09,800 hey folks good evening and welcome to 19 00:01:14,149 --> 00:01:12,539 another episode of arcane radio where we 20 00:01:17,090 --> 00:01:14,159 explore the unexplained here on the 21 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:17,100 paranormal king radio neck Network now 22 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:18,810 I'm your host launch director coming to 23 00:01:22,969 --> 00:01:21,090 you with in a cannon shot of historic 24 00:01:25,069 --> 00:01:22,979 Gettysburg in the mysterious state of 25 00:01:28,309 --> 00:01:25,079 Pennsylvania I thank you for joining me 26 00:01:32,779 --> 00:01:28,319 now before I start with my guests this 27 00:01:36,590 --> 00:01:32,789 evening I'm just gonna talk about a case 28 00:01:39,980 --> 00:01:36,600 that I received recently there was a 29 00:01:43,940 --> 00:01:39,990 telephone call I got from a woman who 30 00:01:47,059 --> 00:01:43,950 all referred to as Lucy now she's a 31 00:01:51,230 --> 00:01:47,069 woman of Navajo heritage who once lived 32 00:01:54,589 --> 00:01:51,240 in the town of Lovington New Mexico as a 33 00:01:57,830 --> 00:01:54,599 child and in this instance at the age of 34 00:02:01,339 --> 00:01:57,840 8 Lucy and her friends would play on 35 00:02:03,230 --> 00:02:01,349 school grounds near our house there was 36 00:02:05,929 --> 00:02:03,240 also a small grocery store with a large 37 00:02:09,109 --> 00:02:05,939 porch where the we're kids would spend a 38 00:02:11,930 --> 00:02:09,119 lot of time her mother had credit there 39 00:02:13,819 --> 00:02:11,940 so Lucy was allowed to just go ahead and 40 00:02:16,610 --> 00:02:13,829 purchase candy when average didn't 41 00:02:20,390 --> 00:02:16,620 wanted to do this the grocery store also 42 00:02:23,180 --> 00:02:20,400 had a butchered meat so they had a they 43 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:23,190 had a small butcher shop so during the 44 00:02:29,180 --> 00:02:26,130 summer day in early 1980s someone or 45 00:02:32,420 --> 00:02:29,190 something vandalized the grocery store 46 00:02:34,699 --> 00:02:32,430 while the owners were on vacation now 47 00:02:36,979 --> 00:02:34,709 the front door had been torn through and 48 00:02:40,069 --> 00:02:36,989 there was a large hole on the floor of 49 00:02:43,879 --> 00:02:40,079 the front porch as well a majority of 50 00:02:46,640 --> 00:02:43,889 the butchered meat was stolen so when 51 00:02:48,830 --> 00:02:46,650 the the owners returned home they 52 00:02:52,009 --> 00:02:48,840 started to blame the local residents for 53 00:02:53,870 --> 00:02:52,019 the theft of vandalism now you know this 54 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:53,880 was very much out of character for the 55 00:02:56,420 --> 00:02:55,410 people in this small town you know and 56 00:02:59,960 --> 00:02:56,430 everybody 57 00:03:02,660 --> 00:02:59,970 depended on the grocery store so besides 58 00:03:06,349 --> 00:03:02,670 it was a friendly tight-knit community 59 00:03:08,629 --> 00:03:06,359 and crime was very rare so there were 60 00:03:11,839 --> 00:03:08,639 never any charges brought up against 61 00:03:15,170 --> 00:03:11,849 anybody and at the store eventually and 62 00:03:18,469 --> 00:03:15,180 closed and Lou doubted Lovington into 63 00:03:19,580 --> 00:03:18,479 another town so the grocery store 64 00:03:22,820 --> 00:03:19,590 building was just 65 00:03:25,100 --> 00:03:22,830 than it was abandoned so one early 66 00:03:28,580 --> 00:03:25,110 morning a few months later Lucy and her 67 00:03:31,309 --> 00:03:28,590 younger sister were home alone after her 68 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:31,319 parents had rushed Lucy's older sister 69 00:03:35,059 --> 00:03:33,810 to the hospital which is several miles 70 00:03:37,430 --> 00:03:35,069 away 71 00:03:39,830 --> 00:03:37,440 Lucy's sister had a ruptured appendix 72 00:03:43,250 --> 00:03:39,840 that night before and needed immediate 73 00:03:45,350 --> 00:03:43,260 treatment so Lucy was sleeping on the 74 00:03:47,449 --> 00:03:45,360 couch in the living room while her 75 00:03:51,289 --> 00:03:47,459 younger sister was fast asleep on the 76 00:03:54,589 --> 00:03:51,299 floor now Lucy was a walk by a loud 77 00:03:57,199 --> 00:03:54,599 creaking sound outside the front door 78 00:03:59,270 --> 00:03:57,209 she raised up from the couch and thought 79 00:04:03,650 --> 00:03:59,280 she had seen a large hairy head 80 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:03,660 shoulders in the window alarm Lucy 81 00:04:07,839 --> 00:04:05,370 immediately pulled the covers of her 82 00:04:11,630 --> 00:04:07,849 head her head while hoping this thing 83 00:04:14,750 --> 00:04:11,640 would just go away she continued to hear 84 00:04:17,029 --> 00:04:14,760 noises on the porch and once again she 85 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:17,039 knows the Lord Harry had shoulders 86 00:04:21,979 --> 00:04:19,650 standing in the window it would duck 87 00:04:25,430 --> 00:04:21,989 down below the window then slowly raised 88 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:25,440 up by this time Lucy had become curious 89 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:27,810 and thought that her cousins they had 90 00:04:32,750 --> 00:04:31,050 been playing a prank on her so her 91 00:04:35,420 --> 00:04:32,760 little sister was still asleep on the 92 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:35,430 floor so Lucy got off the couch and 93 00:04:41,620 --> 00:04:38,250 walked to the window and peeked out and 94 00:04:44,029 --> 00:04:41,630 she was amazed to see a huge hairy man 95 00:04:46,820 --> 00:04:44,039 swiftly striding towards the side of the 96 00:04:48,830 --> 00:04:46,830 house in the direction of the school now 97 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:48,840 Lucy ran to the door stepped out 98 00:04:54,379 --> 00:04:51,210 barefoot and began to run at to this 99 00:04:58,010 --> 00:04:54,389 large hairy man she was sure that 100 00:04:59,960 --> 00:04:58,020 someone was trying to scare her and she 101 00:05:03,800 --> 00:04:59,970 was somewhat fearless when she was young 102 00:05:06,020 --> 00:05:03,810 but she was gonna find out who it was so 103 00:05:08,750 --> 00:05:06,030 Lucy ran past the school and made her 104 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:08,760 way to the abandoned grocery store she 105 00:05:13,250 --> 00:05:10,650 heard noises coming from inside the 106 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:13,260 building she stepped up onto the porch 107 00:05:19,430 --> 00:05:15,570 and immediately felt a sharp stabbing 108 00:05:21,770 --> 00:05:19,440 pain in her right foot she quickly sat 109 00:05:24,650 --> 00:05:21,780 down on the porch and saw that she had 110 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:24,660 stepped on a large splinter she was in 111 00:05:28,909 --> 00:05:26,610 terrible pain and as she tried to remove 112 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:28,919 the Splinter while the tears flowed down 113 00:05:36,490 --> 00:05:33,090 her cheek then without warning a 114 00:05:39,590 --> 00:05:36,500 Lord Harry Henry from behind her and 115 00:05:41,450 --> 00:05:39,600 pointed at her injured foot now Lucy 116 00:05:43,939 --> 00:05:41,460 commented that the fingernails were 117 00:05:47,180 --> 00:05:43,949 black and that the hand was the size of 118 00:05:48,620 --> 00:05:47,190 catcher's mitt with thick fingers she 119 00:05:50,719 --> 00:05:48,630 said that she was not afraid of the 120 00:05:53,689 --> 00:05:50,729 hairy man but did not like the way it 121 00:05:56,750 --> 00:05:53,699 smelled she looked up and saw a face of 122 00:05:59,719 --> 00:05:56,760 an ape-like man with large long dark 123 00:06:02,750 --> 00:05:59,729 reddish hair falling all over it and 124 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:02,760 from the top of the head the skin was 125 00:06:07,909 --> 00:06:05,370 like that of a tan Caucasian man but 126 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:07,919 mostly rugged looking the eyes were 127 00:06:13,280 --> 00:06:09,770 round and honey-coloured 128 00:06:15,950 --> 00:06:13,290 she reached up and pulled on the hair 129 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:15,960 wanting to see it this was not a costume 130 00:06:20,629 --> 00:06:18,450 she ain't it hard enough that the hairy 131 00:06:23,870 --> 00:06:20,639 man grimaced in a way that indicated 132 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:23,880 that he didn't that like that but she 133 00:06:29,300 --> 00:06:27,090 also noticed compassion as well the 134 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:29,310 hairy man then picked up Lucy in his 135 00:06:34,340 --> 00:06:32,490 arms and cradled her like a baby he rose 136 00:06:36,350 --> 00:06:34,350 to his feet and quickly walked into the 137 00:06:38,870 --> 00:06:36,360 direction of her house okay she's 138 00:06:40,990 --> 00:06:38,880 stopping near a pine tree in order to 139 00:06:43,340 --> 00:06:41,000 see if anyone else was watching him 140 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:43,350 Lucy was afraid that there may I was 141 00:06:49,190 --> 00:06:45,930 gonna kidnap her but was relieved when 142 00:06:51,170 --> 00:06:49,200 they reached her house he gently lured 143 00:06:52,670 --> 00:06:51,180 her on the porch and watched as she 144 00:06:55,820 --> 00:06:52,680 tried to remove the Splinter from her 145 00:06:58,940 --> 00:06:55,830 foot then the hairy man quickly turned 146 00:07:01,400 --> 00:06:58,950 as if he heard something approaching he 147 00:07:04,310 --> 00:07:01,410 ran off towards the lords grove of pine 148 00:07:07,250 --> 00:07:04,320 trees and was gone in a minute or two 149 00:07:09,860 --> 00:07:07,260 the local police Corps was making its 150 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:09,870 way down the road Lucy said that she 151 00:07:14,180 --> 00:07:11,370 could always tell it was the police 152 00:07:16,190 --> 00:07:14,190 because they had that the one police car 153 00:07:19,010 --> 00:07:16,200 the one patrol car and always made a 154 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:19,020 loud squeaking noise when the grow by 155 00:07:25,100 --> 00:07:21,570 the hairy man must have heard it from a 156 00:07:27,050 --> 00:07:25,110 distance and ran off Lucy now believes 157 00:07:30,050 --> 00:07:27,060 that the hairy man was responsible for 158 00:07:32,270 --> 00:07:30,060 the break-in at the grocery store she 159 00:07:34,969 --> 00:07:32,280 estimates that this hairy man was about 160 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:34,979 eight foot in height and covered in long 161 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:37,770 thick reddish hair that seemed to 162 00:07:42,950 --> 00:07:40,250 slightly change in hue when it moved 163 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:42,960 Lucy said that she never saw a hairy man 164 00:07:46,940 --> 00:07:45,810 again but she did see a smaller hairy 165 00:07:48,830 --> 00:07:46,950 biped 166 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:48,840 a few years ago while she was driving 167 00:07:55,010 --> 00:07:51,410 home at night and that was in West Texas 168 00:07:56,660 --> 00:07:55,020 her account is not widely known and as 169 00:07:59,570 --> 00:07:56,670 she never told anybody other and her 170 00:08:02,450 --> 00:07:59,580 daughter and her daughter had recently 171 00:08:03,980 --> 00:08:02,460 encouraged her to come forward so that 172 00:08:04,940 --> 00:08:03,990 led to her calling me so that's an 173 00:08:07,010 --> 00:08:04,950 interesting story 174 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:07,020 and actually it's the second story i 175 00:08:12,500 --> 00:08:10,650 that i received from directly from 176 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:12,510 witnesses in the last couple of weeks 177 00:08:19,190 --> 00:08:16,170 where the the witnesses actually carry 178 00:08:21,980 --> 00:08:19,200 picked up was injured and taken either 179 00:08:24,890 --> 00:08:21,990 home or to another location by a Bigfoot 180 00:08:29,090 --> 00:08:24,900 so very interesting well anyway tonight 181 00:08:31,070 --> 00:08:29,100 I welcome the members or some of my 182 00:08:34,670 --> 00:08:31,080 members some of the members of phantoms 183 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:34,680 of monsters 14 year research - arcane 184 00:08:40,790 --> 00:08:37,890 radio we're gonna be discussing current 185 00:08:42,530 --> 00:08:40,800 cases and updates as well as try to 186 00:08:44,900 --> 00:08:42,540 answer some of your questions that you 187 00:08:48,860 --> 00:08:44,910 can post in the chat room I'd like to 188 00:08:51,350 --> 00:08:48,870 introduce Tobias Whalen Marcus Ellis and 189 00:08:55,510 --> 00:08:51,360 one of our newest team member is Luis 190 00:08:59,890 --> 00:08:55,520 Castillo so guys thanks for joining me 191 00:09:02,840 --> 00:08:59,900 thanks for having me big great to be on 192 00:09:05,270 --> 00:09:02,850 now Luisa you're the newest to the bunch 193 00:09:08,060 --> 00:09:05,280 I haven't had you on the show yet so 194 00:09:11,300 --> 00:09:08,070 kind of tell folks a little bit of your 195 00:09:13,250 --> 00:09:11,310 background as far as what you are what 196 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:13,260 you enjoyed it doing as far as I think 197 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:16,050 problem beat I guess the best is talking 198 00:09:22,850 --> 00:09:21,450 about Bigfoot well-being being out here 199 00:09:26,230 --> 00:09:22,860 in California I think I'm the only 200 00:09:29,500 --> 00:09:26,240 member who's out here in the west coast 201 00:09:33,190 --> 00:09:29,510 I've been you could say investigating 202 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:33,200 everything from goals to Bigfoot to 203 00:09:41,680 --> 00:09:36,810 possum when I try to get into UFOs since 204 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:41,690 what 2007 I used to have a team that 205 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:44,130 would investigate from this side of the 206 00:09:49,610 --> 00:09:45,810 United States and the farthest we went 207 00:09:52,910 --> 00:09:49,620 was to Paris France we investigated 208 00:09:55,790 --> 00:09:52,920 other states in the country but then 209 00:09:57,560 --> 00:09:55,800 eventually you know as with all teams 210 00:09:59,020 --> 00:09:57,570 they started doing a little bit of 211 00:10:03,340 --> 00:09:59,030 infighting 212 00:10:04,660 --> 00:10:03,350 and so that was you know I didn't put 213 00:10:07,660 --> 00:10:04,670 the take the team apart 214 00:10:11,050 --> 00:10:07,670 left the whole paranormal community for 215 00:10:13,030 --> 00:10:11,060 a few years and just focused on you know 216 00:10:16,690 --> 00:10:13,040 on things on my own with one other 217 00:10:19,090 --> 00:10:16,700 person and I found that working with the 218 00:10:23,500 --> 00:10:19,100 team of only two people instead of five 219 00:10:25,900 --> 00:10:23,510 or six or twenty is a lot better so you 220 00:10:28,270 --> 00:10:25,910 know you don't get the messages mixed in 221 00:10:29,500 --> 00:10:28,280 regards to Bigfoot it's been one of 222 00:10:33,010 --> 00:10:29,510 those things you know growing up in the 223 00:10:34,990 --> 00:10:33,020 70s it was one of the things I loved to 224 00:10:38,260 --> 00:10:35,000 watch and I really read everything I 225 00:10:41,910 --> 00:10:38,270 could on the big hairy guy and you could 226 00:10:46,140 --> 00:10:41,920 just say it's a it's a love of mine that 227 00:10:48,340 --> 00:10:46,150 I've yet to experience you know 228 00:10:51,370 --> 00:10:48,350 personally except I think some of you 229 00:10:53,380 --> 00:10:51,380 guys may have the closest I ever got to 230 00:10:56,410 --> 00:10:53,390 something like it is when camping with I 231 00:10:59,710 --> 00:10:56,420 had a brother-in-law he saw something 232 00:11:01,120 --> 00:10:59,720 and when he came back he had most of his 233 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:01,130 clothing all ripped because he was 234 00:11:06,070 --> 00:11:03,170 running from the bushes and the branches 235 00:11:08,500 --> 00:11:06,080 and you know long story short what he 236 00:11:12,460 --> 00:11:08,510 said he saw was he had left that morning 237 00:11:14,500 --> 00:11:12,470 for a hike and he came upon a clearing 238 00:11:17,530 --> 00:11:14,510 and on the other end of this clearing he 239 00:11:20,710 --> 00:11:17,540 saw a reddish what he thought was a bear 240 00:11:23,110 --> 00:11:20,720 sitting at a trunk of a tree that had 241 00:11:25,030 --> 00:11:23,120 fallen so he wanted to get closer to it 242 00:11:27,310 --> 00:11:25,040 to see it and I guess he stepped on a 243 00:11:29,140 --> 00:11:27,320 branch and made a noise and at that 244 00:11:31,420 --> 00:11:29,150 moment it turned around and it saw him 245 00:11:33,220 --> 00:11:31,430 and at first he still thought it was a 246 00:11:36,130 --> 00:11:33,230 bear until it got up and turned around 247 00:11:37,510 --> 00:11:36,140 completely and started walking towards 248 00:11:42,250 --> 00:11:37,520 him and that's when he said why I need 249 00:11:44,770 --> 00:11:42,260 to leave and it didn't capture it didn't 250 00:11:46,420 --> 00:11:44,780 get him because they didn't want to but 251 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:46,430 he felt that as he was running back to 252 00:11:50,950 --> 00:11:49,010 camp it would keep him within a certain 253 00:11:53,079 --> 00:11:50,960 parameter as to where he could go where 254 00:11:57,370 --> 00:11:53,089 he couldn't go you know what I'm saying 255 00:11:59,770 --> 00:11:57,380 and so and by time he came through he 256 00:12:01,210 --> 00:11:59,780 like I said he's he was bleeding his 257 00:12:03,850 --> 00:12:01,220 clothes were all ripped up because the 258 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:03,860 branch is catching on to him and so that 259 00:12:10,930 --> 00:12:07,810 just further furthered me into you know 260 00:12:12,489 --> 00:12:10,940 looking for this guy so that that's how 261 00:12:14,889 --> 00:12:12,499 I got into it 262 00:12:19,389 --> 00:12:14,899 what was the start of it well you know 263 00:12:25,479 --> 00:12:19,399 you are you and I had met back in 2017 264 00:12:29,379 --> 00:12:25,489 at the Pennsylvania Bigfoot camping 265 00:12:31,029 --> 00:12:29,389 adventure and now I wasn't able to be 266 00:12:31,949 --> 00:12:31,039 there the last one I don't know if you 267 00:12:36,279 --> 00:12:31,959 were there or not 268 00:12:39,159 --> 00:12:36,289 but yeah you do occasionally get to the 269 00:12:42,399 --> 00:12:39,169 East Coast so you know hopefully we're 270 00:12:45,639 --> 00:12:42,409 gonna get together sometime and meet up 271 00:12:49,479 --> 00:12:45,649 and I guess we'll exchange war stories 272 00:12:52,059 --> 00:12:49,489 oh yeah there's a lot of war stories I 273 00:12:54,099 --> 00:12:52,069 mean to spread you know you know I've 274 00:12:55,689 --> 00:12:54,109 told you some of them from here and yeah 275 00:12:58,689 --> 00:12:55,699 I'll tell you some other ones I've had 276 00:13:01,679 --> 00:12:58,699 in the other states and in Paris and you 277 00:13:04,119 --> 00:13:01,689 know it gets interesting you know it 278 00:13:06,339 --> 00:13:04,129 it's interesting to see how each state 279 00:13:08,739 --> 00:13:06,349 or how each country looks at you know 280 00:13:11,879 --> 00:13:08,749 the paranormal and how they look at they 281 00:13:16,179 --> 00:13:11,889 look at it differently from each other 282 00:13:17,859 --> 00:13:16,189 well that's great I mean it's good to 283 00:13:20,799 --> 00:13:17,869 have you on the team to loop because uh 284 00:13:23,349 --> 00:13:20,809 I do need somebody out there and I do 285 00:13:25,749 --> 00:13:23,359 know you so and I know you're dedicated 286 00:13:29,609 --> 00:13:25,759 to what you do so it's great to have you 287 00:13:33,189 --> 00:13:29,619 on the team thank you 288 00:13:35,979 --> 00:13:33,199 so we also have Marcus Ellis with us 289 00:13:37,629 --> 00:13:35,989 Marcus was on the show Lou over month 290 00:13:45,789 --> 00:13:37,639 ago 291 00:13:48,129 --> 00:13:45,799 so Marcus anything new lately yeah it's 292 00:13:53,349 --> 00:13:48,139 not Bigfoot related but it's it's 293 00:13:57,339 --> 00:13:53,359 ufo-related I had some well my good 294 00:14:00,189 --> 00:13:57,349 friend and my mentor MK Davis called me 295 00:14:04,929 --> 00:14:00,199 up kind of excitedly this one particular 296 00:14:10,209 --> 00:14:04,939 night a few weeks back and said hey are 297 00:14:12,039 --> 00:14:10,219 you aware of this happening in you know 298 00:14:16,479 --> 00:14:12,049 our home city of Yazoo City Mississippi 299 00:14:20,289 --> 00:14:16,489 and I'm like no and he proceeded to tell 300 00:14:23,949 --> 00:14:20,299 me about it and it was a huge a huge UFO 301 00:14:25,990 --> 00:14:23,959 sighting that occurred here that that 302 00:14:29,650 --> 00:14:26,000 basically was 303 00:14:31,810 --> 00:14:29,660 washed it was squashed by I don't know 304 00:14:36,340 --> 00:14:31,820 some of the business people and you know 305 00:14:39,820 --> 00:14:36,350 our founding fathers and the crazy thing 306 00:14:43,450 --> 00:14:39,830 about this case and I'm just now 307 00:14:45,070 --> 00:14:43,460 starting to to dig into the the 308 00:14:49,690 --> 00:14:45,080 historical aspect of it in the 309 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:49,700 background of it but it happened within 310 00:15:00,510 --> 00:14:53,650 a week to the to to the to the night of 311 00:15:05,500 --> 00:15:00,520 the 1973 Pascagoula UFO abduction with 312 00:15:08,110 --> 00:15:05,510 Calvin Parker and Charles Hicks so it 313 00:15:10,810 --> 00:15:08,120 you know that has that has really got a 314 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:10,820 lot of my attention on a little a lot of 315 00:15:18,700 --> 00:15:14,450 my focus right now because you know 1973 316 00:15:21,730 --> 00:15:18,710 we had a here in the the southeast we 317 00:15:23,830 --> 00:15:21,740 had just a I mean it was a flap I mean 318 00:15:26,580 --> 00:15:23,840 that's just the best way you can say it 319 00:15:30,490 --> 00:15:26,590 yeah it was the same way up here in 320 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:30,500 Pennsylvania for whatever reason 73 was 321 00:15:37,690 --> 00:15:34,250 nuts I you know I there was just a lot 322 00:15:39,550 --> 00:15:37,700 of reports going on and I don't know I 323 00:15:42,070 --> 00:15:39,560 mean I don't know what happened or what 324 00:15:46,810 --> 00:15:42,080 caused all that but you're right 73 was 325 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:46,820 a busy year it was a wild one and our 326 00:15:52,270 --> 00:15:48,890 weather has been so bad down here in 327 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:52,280 Mississippi uh you know we've got we've 328 00:15:57,940 --> 00:15:54,050 got road closures we got roads 329 00:16:00,370 --> 00:15:57,950 collapsing it's really it's really it's 330 00:16:03,490 --> 00:16:00,380 like right here in the Yazoo City a zoo 331 00:16:06,850 --> 00:16:03,500 County area we've got two major highways 332 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:06,860 that are that are you know messed up and 333 00:16:12,970 --> 00:16:11,210 we've got stuff down south from us in 334 00:16:16,030 --> 00:16:12,980 the Vicksburg area this that's really 335 00:16:19,950 --> 00:16:16,040 really bad so you know as far as the the 336 00:16:23,530 --> 00:16:19,960 Bigfoot and the cryptid side of things 337 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:23,540 we really haven't had a whole lot of 338 00:16:28,390 --> 00:16:25,970 chance to get out because like you were 339 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:28,400 talking about Giles weather along it's 340 00:16:33,370 --> 00:16:30,890 been nuts down here I mean it really 341 00:16:37,020 --> 00:16:33,380 hampered the ability to get into the 342 00:16:39,370 --> 00:16:37,030 field and and see what's going on yeah 343 00:16:39,740 --> 00:16:39,380 yeah I you know I hear that from a lot 344 00:16:42,890 --> 00:16:39,750 of 345 00:16:45,170 --> 00:16:42,900 people all over North America especially 346 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:45,180 the last couple years where it you know 347 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:47,610 it is debt there's definitely a climate 348 00:16:54,890 --> 00:16:50,610 issue I mean you know things just be 349 00:16:58,430 --> 00:16:54,900 gone a wire and it is somewhat difficult 350 00:17:00,800 --> 00:16:58,440 to get out this time of year but you 351 00:17:03,590 --> 00:17:00,810 know yeah maybe we are lucky sometimes 352 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:03,600 and get out there but it does tend to be 353 00:17:12,590 --> 00:17:10,410 an issue so so Tobias not to Bice 354 00:17:15,530 --> 00:17:12,600 Whalen has been with the group now I 355 00:17:20,750 --> 00:17:15,540 guess you came in right at the beginning 356 00:17:22,699 --> 00:17:20,760 of the the Chicago humanoid flap so 357 00:17:28,010 --> 00:17:22,709 Tobias what's been going on with you 358 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:28,020 lately oh boy well you know I guess 359 00:17:33,740 --> 00:17:31,050 pretty similarly to everybody else I 360 00:17:37,130 --> 00:17:33,750 mean winners are usually pretty rough up 361 00:17:39,980 --> 00:17:37,140 in Wisconsin here so you know I haven't 362 00:17:43,460 --> 00:17:39,990 done a lot of field work but you know 363 00:17:45,950 --> 00:17:43,470 I'm sure I have some field stuff that we 364 00:17:50,210 --> 00:17:45,960 haven't talked about before I mean we've 365 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:50,220 been going into the southern unit of the 366 00:17:57,980 --> 00:17:53,490 Kettle Moraine State Forest with J butch 367 00:18:03,290 --> 00:17:57,990 ocean now for boy you know months most 368 00:18:05,650 --> 00:18:03,300 of 2019 and the last time we went out 369 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:05,660 there with them would have been last 370 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:10,410 November and it was I mean it was 371 00:18:17,060 --> 00:18:14,970 nothing short of amazing frankly and and 372 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:17,070 you know we almost always experienced 373 00:18:22,870 --> 00:18:20,010 something whenever we go out there and 374 00:18:26,330 --> 00:18:22,880 you know this is an area known for 375 00:18:31,310 --> 00:18:26,340 Bigfoot and dog man sightings but it's 376 00:18:34,540 --> 00:18:31,320 also known for anomalous orbs and and 377 00:18:39,260 --> 00:18:34,550 and and that sort of like related UFO 378 00:18:40,820 --> 00:18:39,270 phenomena and so we've seen you know I 379 00:18:43,250 --> 00:18:40,830 haven't really had any any dog man 380 00:18:47,090 --> 00:18:43,260 experiences to speak of out there you 381 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:47,100 know excuse me uh I've had so certainly 382 00:18:53,310 --> 00:18:50,490 some possibly like Bigfoot related stuff 383 00:18:58,049 --> 00:18:53,320 you know we've seen 384 00:19:01,870 --> 00:18:58,059 those orbs out there which is pretty 385 00:19:03,940 --> 00:19:01,880 amazing frankly to see it with with your 386 00:19:09,909 --> 00:19:03,950 own eyes so last time we were out there 387 00:19:12,010 --> 00:19:09,919 actually this past November we would 388 00:19:15,130 --> 00:19:12,020 actually caught one of them on camera 389 00:19:17,919 --> 00:19:15,140 which was you know stunning to see later 390 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:17,929 so it was towards the the end of our 391 00:19:25,270 --> 00:19:21,650 hike and I'm sort of out ahead and with 392 00:19:28,630 --> 00:19:25,280 me is Adam Benedict of the pine pine 393 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:28,640 barrens Institute and then my niece was 394 00:19:34,899 --> 00:19:31,250 there and behind us on the trail quite a 395 00:19:38,049 --> 00:19:34,909 ways Jay and Emily were kind of bringing 396 00:19:40,779 --> 00:19:38,059 up the rear there and I happened to be 397 00:19:42,789 --> 00:19:40,789 looking straight ahead in Jay and Emily 398 00:19:44,770 --> 00:19:42,799 were actually looking ahead to my niece 399 00:19:46,419 --> 00:19:44,780 and Adam were both looking off the sides 400 00:19:53,409 --> 00:19:46,429 of the trail and I see right in front of 401 00:19:57,159 --> 00:19:53,419 us this huge bright white orb and it 402 00:19:59,890 --> 00:19:57,169 looks like it just sort of flashes into 403 00:20:01,750 --> 00:19:59,900 existence at the top of the tree line 404 00:20:05,110 --> 00:20:01,760 and then it goes down through the trees 405 00:20:10,390 --> 00:20:05,120 and disappears before it hits the ground 406 00:20:12,789 --> 00:20:10,400 and you know I sat there for a second 407 00:20:16,120 --> 00:20:12,799 and that I I yelled something that 408 00:20:21,669 --> 00:20:16,130 probably has too many expletives for me 409 00:20:24,549 --> 00:20:21,679 to say on the air here but I mean it was 410 00:20:27,549 --> 00:20:24,559 something to see because this thing I 411 00:20:32,470 --> 00:20:27,559 mean it wasn't a meteor you know it 412 00:20:36,149 --> 00:20:32,480 wasn't it wasn't ball lightning it it it 413 00:20:39,610 --> 00:20:36,159 absolutely was some kind of anomalous 414 00:20:41,890 --> 00:20:39,620 glowing white orb that just went down 415 00:20:44,230 --> 00:20:41,900 through these trees and and the reason 416 00:20:47,950 --> 00:20:44,240 that I am so sure of them is because as 417 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:47,960 I was watching it I could see the light 418 00:20:52,630 --> 00:20:50,690 coming off of it illuminating these 419 00:20:55,149 --> 00:20:52,640 these trees and it was illuminating the 420 00:20:59,110 --> 00:20:55,159 trees behind it so if it was just 421 00:21:01,120 --> 00:20:59,120 something in the sky like there's no way 422 00:21:04,299 --> 00:21:01,130 it would it would ever do that you know 423 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:04,309 and and now this is the the same area 424 00:21:07,810 --> 00:21:05,570 where you 425 00:21:12,870 --> 00:21:07,820 know we've all seen strange red lights 426 00:21:16,420 --> 00:21:12,880 very similar to the the red lights 427 00:21:19,360 --> 00:21:16,430 reported you know what was it far south 428 00:21:23,500 --> 00:21:19,370 Chicago or maybe it was on the the the 429 00:21:26,470 --> 00:21:23,510 Indiana side there where that witness 430 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:26,480 saw the the two red lights out in that 431 00:21:32,740 --> 00:21:29,450 Golf Course area yeah yeah like very 432 00:21:35,770 --> 00:21:32,750 similar to that now I've never seen 433 00:21:40,060 --> 00:21:35,780 anything that looks like eyes Emily and 434 00:21:44,430 --> 00:21:40,070 Jay both have I've seen a single red 435 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:44,440 light that was just up in the trees but 436 00:21:50,650 --> 00:21:46,730 yeah so there's there's been some of 437 00:21:52,510 --> 00:21:50,660 that you know I I've heard and I I guess 438 00:21:55,120 --> 00:21:52,520 this is something that is often 439 00:21:57,670 --> 00:21:55,130 associated with with Bigfoot sightings 440 00:22:01,420 --> 00:21:57,680 but I've heard what sounded like it was 441 00:22:03,220 --> 00:22:01,430 basically a gibberish conversation it 442 00:22:05,590 --> 00:22:03,230 sounded like people were talking to each 443 00:22:07,210 --> 00:22:05,600 other but I mean it was just total 444 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:07,220 gibberish and my gibberish I mean I 445 00:22:11,830 --> 00:22:08,810 don't mean like a language I understand 446 00:22:15,190 --> 00:22:11,840 it would it just it it just sounded like 447 00:22:16,870 --> 00:22:15,200 like total gibberish I don't I don't I 448 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:16,880 mean it was talking but it didn't sound 449 00:22:20,460 --> 00:22:18,650 like any human language that I had ever 450 00:22:23,890 --> 00:22:20,470 heard 451 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:23,900 boy what else I mean there's so much I 452 00:22:31,270 --> 00:22:27,170 mean honestly you know I there was one 453 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:31,280 time where we had set up because 454 00:22:35,590 --> 00:22:33,410 sometimes you know I like will often go 455 00:22:37,420 --> 00:22:35,600 hiking through there but also sometimes 456 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:37,430 we'll just kind of camp out for a minute 457 00:22:41,710 --> 00:22:39,530 like say we'll set up some chairs on the 458 00:22:44,350 --> 00:22:41,720 on the trail or something we always go 459 00:22:46,060 --> 00:22:44,360 out at night so it's it's it's pretty 460 00:22:49,930 --> 00:22:46,070 isolated there's there's nobody else out 461 00:22:53,230 --> 00:22:49,940 there with us and and which is good 462 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:53,240 obviously and I and I remember one time 463 00:23:01,630 --> 00:22:55,250 you know we were sitting out there on 464 00:23:04,750 --> 00:23:01,640 this trail and and I swear like I I saw 465 00:23:06,970 --> 00:23:04,760 something out of the corner of my eye 466 00:23:09,910 --> 00:23:06,980 and I didn't think too much of it but 467 00:23:14,260 --> 00:23:09,920 then you know maybe a second or two 468 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:14,270 later I hear this loud huff and I swear 469 00:23:18,340 --> 00:23:16,970 to God it's it's right behind me like 470 00:23:21,190 --> 00:23:18,350 right behind me 471 00:23:24,490 --> 00:23:21,200 and you know I spin around and there's 472 00:23:28,690 --> 00:23:24,500 nothing there nothing and and you know I 473 00:23:30,250 --> 00:23:28,700 may be something like a deer or 474 00:23:33,700 --> 00:23:30,260 something could have made a sound like 475 00:23:38,620 --> 00:23:33,710 that but the thing is like where was it 476 00:23:40,950 --> 00:23:38,630 I mean it it was so close that I I swear 477 00:23:44,260 --> 00:23:40,960 that I could feel its breath you know 478 00:23:46,570 --> 00:23:44,270 and and yet and yet I I turn around and 479 00:23:49,020 --> 00:23:46,580 there's just nothing there and so you 480 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:49,030 know now that the weather hopefully is 481 00:23:54,909 --> 00:23:51,890 gonna gonna turn around for us soon 482 00:23:57,340 --> 00:23:54,919 you know it'll I think we're gonna be 483 00:23:59,200 --> 00:23:57,350 looking at more spring temperatures next 484 00:24:02,560 --> 00:23:59,210 month you know when when March rolls 485 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:02,570 around so I'm pretty excited to get back 486 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:04,610 out there you know we've we've taken our 487 00:24:09,279 --> 00:24:07,090 spirit boxes with us every time too and 488 00:24:14,649 --> 00:24:09,289 you know and and we've gotten some very 489 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:14,659 interesting results as well and and it's 490 00:24:21,370 --> 00:24:18,530 just bizarre stuff really where you know 491 00:24:24,070 --> 00:24:21,380 I'm I don't think that what we're 492 00:24:27,310 --> 00:24:24,080 communicating with is is human you know 493 00:24:30,820 --> 00:24:27,320 I'll just say that just the the stuff 494 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:30,830 that that comes through there well you 495 00:24:36,820 --> 00:24:34,850 know as many of you and people listened 496 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:36,830 to us know that I guess one of the main 497 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:40,010 cases we've been wow cases I mean this 498 00:24:44,380 --> 00:24:42,890 is just a conglomerate of cases has been 499 00:24:49,890 --> 00:24:44,390 what's been going on in or around 500 00:24:58,330 --> 00:24:53,950 recently I had received another though 501 00:25:02,850 --> 00:24:58,340 older case from 2006 of a sighting of a 502 00:25:05,940 --> 00:25:02,860 caped winged humanoid just outside of 503 00:25:09,130 --> 00:25:05,950 just outside of O'Hare International and 504 00:25:11,620 --> 00:25:09,140 why we're receiving all this this 505 00:25:14,950 --> 00:25:11,630 information these sightings as such in 506 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:14,960 turn around O'Hare International is just 507 00:25:22,289 --> 00:25:18,250 bizarre to me then of course we had that 508 00:25:28,450 --> 00:25:22,299 had that other sighting which was 509 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:28,460 reported by manual on January 23rd of 510 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:33,050 the UFO and the ascending 511 00:25:40,630 --> 00:25:36,050 humanoid from the cemetery that's on the 512 00:25:43,700 --> 00:25:40,640 that's on the O'Hara property I you know 513 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:43,710 for one thing III think there may be a 514 00:25:49,430 --> 00:25:46,050 connection I you know I just get this 515 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:49,440 kind of sixth sense that maybe there's 516 00:25:55,490 --> 00:25:52,650 humanoid or whatever this was that 517 00:26:01,430 --> 00:25:55,500 happened to be in that little graveyard 518 00:26:05,210 --> 00:26:01,440 oh no error International property is is 519 00:26:08,540 --> 00:26:05,220 seen being raised or I can't know if 520 00:26:14,450 --> 00:26:08,550 they adopted but picked up by a large 521 00:26:15,890 --> 00:26:14,460 oval or UFO so I don't know guys what do 522 00:26:21,980 --> 00:26:15,900 you think you think there may be a 523 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:21,990 connection there somehow it possibly is 524 00:26:26,690 --> 00:26:23,450 a connection all right 525 00:26:28,550 --> 00:26:26,700 yeah going on this I was gonna say is I 526 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:28,560 think that maybe a connection because 527 00:26:34,070 --> 00:26:30,810 remember a few years back you had that 528 00:26:37,250 --> 00:26:34,080 year forward O'Hara is Airport right and 529 00:26:43,220 --> 00:26:37,260 then all of a sudden you get this this 530 00:26:46,250 --> 00:26:43,230 tidal wave of Mothman activity all in in 531 00:26:47,870 --> 00:26:46,260 Chicago so I mean I'm not out there but 532 00:26:51,950 --> 00:26:47,880 just seems that one may have something 533 00:26:53,900 --> 00:26:51,960 to do with the other I don't know I mean 534 00:26:57,620 --> 00:26:53,910 I I wish we would have got a better 535 00:27:00,470 --> 00:26:57,630 description of either the person or the 536 00:27:03,410 --> 00:27:00,480 humanoid that was raised up into the 537 00:27:05,330 --> 00:27:03,420 craft I mean if this guy would have said 538 00:27:06,770 --> 00:27:05,340 this thing had wings on it I I've been 539 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:06,780 pretty positive there was something 540 00:27:13,010 --> 00:27:09,690 connected but I me that wasn't the case 541 00:27:16,490 --> 00:27:13,020 I just feel there's something really 542 00:27:19,910 --> 00:27:16,500 bizarre connected to somehow what do you 543 00:27:24,500 --> 00:27:19,920 think Marcus well you know when you when 544 00:27:28,250 --> 00:27:24,510 you go back and you look at okay look at 545 00:27:31,460 --> 00:27:28,260 look at the works of John keel when John 546 00:27:34,790 --> 00:27:31,470 keel you know first started you know 547 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:34,800 pretty much everything to him in the UFO 548 00:27:40,390 --> 00:27:37,530 area applying saucers whatever you know 549 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:40,400 they were they were nuts and bolts craft 550 00:27:46,460 --> 00:27:45,090 it was the extra-terrestrial hypothesis 551 00:27:48,190 --> 00:27:46,470 all the way for him but 552 00:27:51,710 --> 00:27:48,200 you know when he started really 553 00:27:53,930 --> 00:27:51,720 investigating and looking into it you 554 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:53,940 know that's when what we refer to as the 555 00:28:01,880 --> 00:27:55,890 high strangeness factor started kicking 556 00:28:04,730 --> 00:28:01,890 in you know winged humanoids you know 557 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:04,740 things things that that would that would 558 00:28:11,870 --> 00:28:08,970 hearken back to the wee folk the little 559 00:28:14,270 --> 00:28:11,880 people and you know that eventually you 560 00:28:17,990 --> 00:28:14,280 know led the way to the ultra 561 00:28:20,990 --> 00:28:18,000 terrestrial viewpoint that that him and 562 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:21,000 you know of dr. jacques of la you know 563 00:28:27,110 --> 00:28:24,090 wound up leaning towards I mean my point 564 00:28:28,070 --> 00:28:27,120 is there were so many things like flying 565 00:28:32,149 --> 00:28:28,080 saucers 566 00:28:36,950 --> 00:28:32,159 you know UFOs Mothman other types of 567 00:28:40,310 --> 00:28:36,960 weird creatures that that you know it 568 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:40,320 was it was just truly bizarre but you 569 00:28:45,350 --> 00:28:42,330 know this was all happening like in 570 00:28:48,770 --> 00:28:45,360 Point Pleasant West Virginia but but he 571 00:28:52,250 --> 00:28:48,780 saw this in other places as well so is 572 00:28:55,460 --> 00:28:52,260 it connected that is the $64 question 573 00:28:57,860 --> 00:28:55,470 but it was certainly you know pop up 574 00:29:00,020 --> 00:28:57,870 from time to time and and he began to 575 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:00,030 really take note of that and that's one 576 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:02,370 of the things that I look for my kin 577 00:29:09,669 --> 00:29:06,690 I've been doing you know when I started 578 00:29:13,630 --> 00:29:09,679 going out with with MK Davis 579 00:29:17,630 --> 00:29:13,640 it was strictly from a a cryptic Bigfoot 580 00:29:20,779 --> 00:29:17,640 standpoint but as we started you know 581 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:20,789 working together and going to a lot of 582 00:29:24,980 --> 00:29:23,010 the Indian mounds and things that that 583 00:29:28,190 --> 00:29:24,990 are here in the south and going to 584 00:29:31,789 --> 00:29:28,200 different places you know we're having 585 00:29:33,740 --> 00:29:31,799 different types of phenomena come at us 586 00:29:35,659 --> 00:29:33,750 and we're looking for Bigfoot I mean for 587 00:29:39,620 --> 00:29:35,669 example we're we're investigating 588 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:39,630 Bigfoot and we haven't have a UFO 589 00:29:45,230 --> 00:29:41,730 sighting we can you know I managed 590 00:29:47,180 --> 00:29:45,240 photographs of so I mean I've been out 591 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:47,190 by myself as I talked about I think in 592 00:29:53,419 --> 00:29:50,490 the you know the first show that you 593 00:29:55,490 --> 00:29:53,429 allowed me to come on and do you know 594 00:29:57,799 --> 00:29:55,500 I've been out again investigating 595 00:29:59,930 --> 00:29:57,809 cryptid activity and I would have 596 00:30:04,819 --> 00:29:59,940 something that was just 597 00:30:08,119 --> 00:30:04,829 pure paranormal of demonic uh you know a 598 00:30:12,379 --> 00:30:08,129 residual-type haunt i p-- situation I 599 00:30:15,349 --> 00:30:12,389 felt so when you step out into the to 600 00:30:18,799 --> 00:30:15,359 the field you know looking for whatever 601 00:30:22,339 --> 00:30:18,809 you know whatever your your you know I 602 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:22,349 guess you would say your I don't know I 603 00:30:28,309 --> 00:30:24,690 guess say my case my favorite thing to 604 00:30:30,139 --> 00:30:28,319 go look more you know ma'am you get hit 605 00:30:33,379 --> 00:30:30,149 with something that that you're not out 606 00:30:37,069 --> 00:30:33,389 there looking for a lot it is there a 607 00:30:38,689 --> 00:30:37,079 connection you know I I can't blame me 608 00:30:42,169 --> 00:30:38,699 for asking that question Elan it's a 609 00:30:44,629 --> 00:30:42,179 real good one well you know I I guess 610 00:30:47,989 --> 00:30:44,639 anybody that seriously starts looking 611 00:30:50,089 --> 00:30:47,999 into cryptids another phenomena 612 00:30:53,779 --> 00:30:50,099 associated with the paranormal will soon 613 00:30:56,659 --> 00:30:53,789 find out there does seem to be something 614 00:30:59,359 --> 00:30:56,669 connected I mean that these these genres 615 00:31:01,579 --> 00:30:59,369 of the paranormal are connected somehow 616 00:31:05,989 --> 00:31:01,589 I think you agree with that wouldn't it 617 00:31:09,379 --> 00:31:05,999 supplies I yeah I absolutely would it's 618 00:31:12,829 --> 00:31:09,389 it's it's interesting really that that 619 00:31:16,489 --> 00:31:12,839 Marcus mentioned John keel to because 620 00:31:21,049 --> 00:31:16,499 yeah I've seen some of that sort of 621 00:31:23,209 --> 00:31:21,059 mirrored in in my own progression at the 622 00:31:26,149 --> 00:31:23,219 you know I actually start as a field 623 00:31:28,939 --> 00:31:26,159 investigator with the mutual UFO network 624 00:31:32,989 --> 00:31:28,949 and I very much thought that you know 625 00:31:34,819 --> 00:31:32,999 UFOs you know some anyway represented 626 00:31:37,849 --> 00:31:34,829 nuts and bolts extraterrestrial 627 00:31:41,419 --> 00:31:37,859 spacecraft and and you know over the 628 00:31:44,829 --> 00:31:41,429 past 10-15 years you know like my 629 00:31:48,079 --> 00:31:44,839 opinion on that has has changed pretty 630 00:31:52,519 --> 00:31:48,089 profoundly and and yeah and certainly 631 00:31:55,099 --> 00:31:52,529 the the events around Lake Michigan have 632 00:31:58,099 --> 00:31:55,109 have reinforced that that change if 633 00:32:03,319 --> 00:31:58,109 nothing else I mean these things are 634 00:32:06,439 --> 00:32:03,329 they they're connected certainly as as 635 00:32:08,989 --> 00:32:06,449 far as the strength of that connection I 636 00:32:11,869 --> 00:32:08,999 mean I I think that's what's arguable I 637 00:32:12,770 --> 00:32:11,879 mean we know that you know they they 638 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:12,780 that 639 00:32:19,310 --> 00:32:16,410 have all of these anomalous phenomena 640 00:32:23,450 --> 00:32:19,320 happening in in close geographic 641 00:32:28,580 --> 00:32:23,460 proximity you know and so it is that 642 00:32:31,370 --> 00:32:28,590 connection is is it direct I mean is is 643 00:32:32,660 --> 00:32:31,380 there a a direct link are they are they 644 00:32:35,630 --> 00:32:32,670 somehow working together or are we 645 00:32:39,500 --> 00:32:35,640 talking about something that is only as 646 00:32:42,770 --> 00:32:39,510 connected as say a a bear and a wolf 647 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:42,780 that both live in the same forest you 648 00:32:50,270 --> 00:32:45,810 know it's it's it's hard to say but I I 649 00:32:52,340 --> 00:32:50,280 don't think that it is completely 650 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:52,350 unrelated I mean there's there's just no 651 00:32:58,910 --> 00:32:56,610 way well you know speaking of Chicago I 652 00:33:02,330 --> 00:32:58,920 received the report this morning which 653 00:33:05,330 --> 00:33:02,340 I'm actually investigating and I don't 654 00:33:08,390 --> 00:33:05,340 know I think a few guys might have seen 655 00:33:12,710 --> 00:33:08,400 the photographs that were sent to me of 656 00:33:16,220 --> 00:33:12,720 the tracks in the snow of this whatever 657 00:33:22,390 --> 00:33:16,230 this thing was it had like two long 658 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:22,400 talons in the front and a Talon 659 00:33:28,970 --> 00:33:24,930 extending from the back that's how I was 660 00:33:33,100 --> 00:33:28,980 described to to the witnesses son who 661 00:33:37,490 --> 00:33:33,110 called me and he said it measured 662 00:33:42,260 --> 00:33:37,500 lengthwise about the size of a man's 11 663 00:33:44,300 --> 00:33:42,270 size 11 shoe so you know looking at 664 00:33:47,930 --> 00:33:44,310 those and I don't know Tobias if you saw 665 00:33:51,290 --> 00:33:47,940 them or not but uh I I think they kind 666 00:33:53,570 --> 00:33:51,300 of looked similar to what was 667 00:33:58,370 --> 00:33:53,580 photographed up in Woodstock what do you 668 00:34:00,380 --> 00:33:58,380 think boom now I'll have to uh I don't 669 00:34:03,740 --> 00:34:00,390 think I have seen those yet but it I 670 00:34:05,090 --> 00:34:03,750 first saw them this morning so I just 671 00:34:07,100 --> 00:34:05,100 want to know if you're online or 672 00:34:10,580 --> 00:34:07,110 anything but I've got a series of 673 00:34:14,180 --> 00:34:10,590 photographs from the backyard this 674 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:14,190 happened at an area around six sixty 675 00:34:23,570 --> 00:34:19,890 second and Pauline Avenue just south of 676 00:34:26,210 --> 00:34:23,580 little village those women saw this 677 00:34:30,050 --> 00:34:26,220 thing in the backyard 678 00:34:34,010 --> 00:34:30,060 and there's a there's a large also a 679 00:34:38,450 --> 00:34:34,020 picture of the backyard where there's 680 00:34:41,540 --> 00:34:38,460 six-foot fences and she actually stated 681 00:34:44,359 --> 00:34:41,550 that D the black being and she said it 682 00:34:48,859 --> 00:34:44,369 was all black was the height of the 683 00:34:51,830 --> 00:34:48,869 fence and the wings spread out that 684 00:34:54,020 --> 00:34:51,840 covered the the the gate of the fence 685 00:34:59,720 --> 00:34:54,030 and the gate as are two doors that 686 00:35:02,810 --> 00:34:59,730 measure 12 feet and in width so you know 687 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:02,820 the the the one thing I need to find out 688 00:35:09,580 --> 00:35:06,090 or in a few other things is we're the 689 00:35:13,580 --> 00:35:09,590 wings bat like I haven't heard that yet 690 00:35:15,950 --> 00:35:13,590 but this apparently and I don't know 691 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:15,960 some of you I think we saw it especially 692 00:35:24,170 --> 00:35:21,450 the the tracks their castles I have no 693 00:35:26,150 --> 00:35:24,180 idea what this thing is but you know the 694 00:35:32,210 --> 00:35:26,160 track that we got the one track that we 695 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:32,220 did get from from Woodstock was you know 696 00:35:37,910 --> 00:35:34,650 from what we could see of it looked like 697 00:35:39,859 --> 00:35:37,920 it was maybe two toot and kind of 698 00:35:44,210 --> 00:35:39,869 narrowed to the back so I don't know if 699 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:44,220 it's the same thing or not yeah those 700 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:46,410 footprints were we're pretty freaky to 701 00:35:55,940 --> 00:35:48,690 look at I mean you're right when you say 702 00:35:58,460 --> 00:35:55,950 yeah I would be Korean we know just 703 00:36:00,470 --> 00:35:58,470 saying those are some freaky footsteps 704 00:36:02,510 --> 00:36:00,480 because you can see the two what they 705 00:36:04,460 --> 00:36:02,520 like s you could say a claw two claws in 706 00:36:06,380 --> 00:36:04,470 the front and then towards the rear 707 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:06,390 where the here would be it ends up kind 708 00:36:11,810 --> 00:36:09,690 of pointy yeah and I was like what what 709 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:11,820 this is there's nothing like I've ever 710 00:36:16,460 --> 00:36:13,010 seen 711 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:16,470 yeah it's different Tobias were you able 712 00:36:24,500 --> 00:36:21,330 to go over there and look at it I pushed 713 00:36:27,140 --> 00:36:24,510 it along on the team three sorry I 714 00:36:34,250 --> 00:36:27,150 you're kind of breaking up a little okay 715 00:36:38,780 --> 00:36:34,260 yeah it started trying to pull it off 716 00:36:39,740 --> 00:36:38,790 right now here well I mean he seemed now 717 00:36:43,130 --> 00:36:39,750 the witness 718 00:36:45,230 --> 00:36:43,140 to think and apparently from what his 719 00:36:48,650 --> 00:36:45,240 mother stated that this thing was all 720 00:36:51,590 --> 00:36:48,660 over the yard and I mean you can see 721 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:51,600 that there something it looked like it 722 00:36:58,420 --> 00:36:54,570 was actually chasing something so I I 723 00:37:00,670 --> 00:36:58,430 don't know what she saw exactly but 724 00:37:09,170 --> 00:37:00,680 hopefully I'm gonna get some more wine 725 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:09,180 yeah what do you think well I mean some 726 00:37:18,830 --> 00:37:14,610 of those now hmm I mean some of the 727 00:37:24,140 --> 00:37:18,840 tracks look like there's a potential I 728 00:37:25,910 --> 00:37:24,150 guess for it to be something relatively 729 00:37:28,460 --> 00:37:25,920 mundane I mean I've seen similar tracks 730 00:37:30,620 --> 00:37:28,470 not exactly the same because these are 731 00:37:33,140 --> 00:37:30,630 these look too narrow but they're 732 00:37:35,690 --> 00:37:33,150 they're almost a similar shape to if you 733 00:37:38,390 --> 00:37:35,700 see like like Jackrabbit tracks and the 734 00:37:41,210 --> 00:37:38,400 in the snow yeah like literally just 735 00:37:43,310 --> 00:37:41,220 kind of the imprint of a rabbit but 736 00:37:46,010 --> 00:37:43,320 what's unusual about these footprints 737 00:37:51,650 --> 00:37:46,020 I'm looking at right now is how narrow 738 00:37:56,780 --> 00:37:51,660 they are you know comparatively so 739 00:38:01,040 --> 00:37:56,790 that's really unusual now the what the 740 00:38:03,380 --> 00:38:01,050 single footprint that I found when when 741 00:38:08,270 --> 00:38:03,390 Emily and I went down to to Woodstock 742 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:08,280 looked like a distorted elongated like 743 00:38:15,620 --> 00:38:11,330 barefoot human footprint so it was 744 00:38:18,860 --> 00:38:15,630 probably three times as big as my own 745 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:18,870 footprint and I wear a size 12 and you 746 00:38:26,540 --> 00:38:23,610 could see like articulated humanoid toes 747 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:26,550 at the end of it so I mean it was pretty 748 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:32,850 dissimilar to this whatever it is yeah I 749 00:38:37,550 --> 00:38:35,010 don't I guess I don't know what to make 750 00:38:41,690 --> 00:38:37,560 of of these I mean you know I'm sorry 751 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:41,700 okay yeah it is yeah I was kind of 752 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:45,210 shocked when I first saw it and and if 753 00:38:51,140 --> 00:38:47,490 you look at the stride there is some 754 00:38:52,220 --> 00:38:51,150 differences in stride but you know and 755 00:38:53,450 --> 00:38:52,230 that's the first thing I thought of 756 00:38:56,089 --> 00:38:53,460 Jackrabbit because 757 00:38:59,150 --> 00:38:56,099 seen rabid you know prints in the snow 758 00:39:03,560 --> 00:38:59,160 before and they can look like very 759 00:39:06,740 --> 00:39:03,570 similar to that but the the fact that 760 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:06,750 you know some of these strides are over 761 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:10,170 three foot now I realize a rabbit can 762 00:39:16,670 --> 00:39:13,410 jump but you know consistently like that 763 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:16,680 I don't know I'm not positive but it is 764 00:39:23,260 --> 00:39:18,930 interesting it you know the fact that 765 00:39:28,700 --> 00:39:23,270 this woman did see this thing and I a 766 00:39:30,500 --> 00:39:28,710 timely Saturday connection I would say 767 00:39:33,710 --> 00:39:30,510 what's what's interesting about these 768 00:39:36,890 --> 00:39:33,720 two is that they have like a jackrabbit 769 00:39:38,540 --> 00:39:36,900 track is in a straight line but if these 770 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:38,550 tracks you've got something that looks 771 00:39:44,990 --> 00:39:43,530 like it has the the gate of a biped you 772 00:39:47,030 --> 00:39:45,000 know where where the tracks are 773 00:39:48,470 --> 00:39:47,040 staggered so you know what'll be a 774 00:39:50,300 --> 00:39:48,480 little bit more - the last one will be 775 00:39:52,579 --> 00:39:50,310 to the right they're not in a straight 776 00:39:55,310 --> 00:39:52,589 line like you would expect I'll rabbit 777 00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:55,320 moving through snow to be so that's 778 00:40:01,160 --> 00:39:57,450 that's unusual sorry what were you 779 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:01,170 saying Louise no just gonna say I didn't 780 00:40:06,050 --> 00:40:03,690 think they were a rabbit because again 781 00:40:07,940 --> 00:40:06,060 like you said the stride was so long in 782 00:40:08,359 --> 00:40:07,950 between each one but these things are 783 00:40:11,270 --> 00:40:08,369 huge 784 00:40:14,599 --> 00:40:11,280 I've never seen or you know if these are 785 00:40:17,089 --> 00:40:14,609 supposed to be almost 11 foot you know a 786 00:40:22,700 --> 00:40:17,099 size 11 yeah that's a pretty big damn 787 00:40:24,589 --> 00:40:22,710 rabbit yeah yeah I don't know I don't 788 00:40:28,250 --> 00:40:24,599 know what this thing is that is she did 789 00:40:30,380 --> 00:40:28,260 say that what her what got her attention 790 00:40:35,510 --> 00:40:30,390 was this thing must have been on the 791 00:40:37,250 --> 00:40:35,520 roof they they live in a building on the 792 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:37,260 top she lives on the top floor of a 793 00:40:42,980 --> 00:40:41,130 building and this thing was on the roof 794 00:40:46,670 --> 00:40:42,990 she heard this thing hopping on the roof 795 00:40:50,150 --> 00:40:46,680 and when she started look outside it was 796 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:50,160 standing by the fence and it was moving 797 00:40:55,460 --> 00:40:52,410 around the yard like it was chasing 798 00:40:58,790 --> 00:40:55,470 something now it had the wings were 799 00:41:01,099 --> 00:40:58,800 spread out at some point and she was 800 00:41:06,420 --> 00:41:01,109 able to compare it to the to the fence 801 00:41:08,849 --> 00:41:06,430 and the the large double gate so 802 00:41:10,859 --> 00:41:08,859 maybe I'll get some more information I'm 803 00:41:13,559 --> 00:41:10,869 hopeful I'm gonna have something up more 804 00:41:17,130 --> 00:41:13,569 some more by tomorrow so I can get it up 805 00:41:19,279 --> 00:41:17,140 on the blog but uh you know it's just 806 00:41:21,269 --> 00:41:19,289 another mystery 807 00:41:25,289 --> 00:41:21,279 associated with what's been going on out 808 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:25,299 there and you know the fact that we you 809 00:41:32,670 --> 00:41:28,210 know we may have a UFO possible alien 810 00:41:35,299 --> 00:41:32,680 connection with this phenomena let alone 811 00:41:39,089 --> 00:41:35,309 all the sightings in and around O'Hare 812 00:41:42,630 --> 00:41:39,099 and of course we've had sightings you 813 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:42,640 know about a 250 mile radius 814 00:41:49,650 --> 00:41:46,450 beyond Chicago it's just you know it's 815 00:41:57,690 --> 00:41:49,660 just another another piece of the puzzle 816 00:42:04,760 --> 00:41:57,700 I guess is Marcus were you able to see 817 00:42:08,519 --> 00:42:04,770 those I did see those well you know I'm 818 00:42:12,539 --> 00:42:08,529 I'm puzzled I really am I'm not sure if 819 00:42:15,390 --> 00:42:12,549 it was Lou or one of the other team 820 00:42:17,010 --> 00:42:15,400 members but but y'all were commenting 821 00:42:19,410 --> 00:42:17,020 and I thought I kind of saw this too 822 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:19,420 that that on the backside and the 823 00:42:24,599 --> 00:42:22,690 thought that went through my mind and 824 00:42:28,250 --> 00:42:24,609 you guys will probably laugh when I'm 825 00:42:31,859 --> 00:42:28,260 when I use this but you know how I a 826 00:42:34,230 --> 00:42:31,869 rooster has that spur yeah the spur and 827 00:42:36,059 --> 00:42:34,240 that's what I was thinking yeah you know 828 00:42:37,910 --> 00:42:36,069 I mean that's kind of what what flashed 829 00:42:40,980 --> 00:42:37,920 through my mind when I saw him because 830 00:42:43,589 --> 00:42:40,990 you know the whole thing was odd you 831 00:42:45,269 --> 00:42:43,599 know the what the way they were you know 832 00:42:47,609 --> 00:42:45,279 laid out but then I look toward that 833 00:42:49,349 --> 00:42:47,619 back side and I'm like you know that 834 00:42:51,630 --> 00:42:49,359 because there was a mark in the snow 835 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:51,640 there and I'm like no I couldn't wrap my 836 00:42:55,710 --> 00:42:52,690 head around it 837 00:42:57,750 --> 00:42:55,720 I mean but the first thing that went 838 00:43:01,920 --> 00:42:57,760 through my head was like like a spur 839 00:43:08,510 --> 00:43:01,930 like from a you know from from a rooster 840 00:43:11,519 --> 00:43:08,520 or chicken or something like that well 841 00:43:14,250 --> 00:43:11,529 it's it is strange and hopefully I'm 842 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:14,260 gonna get a little more on this so you 843 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:16,210 know I wanted to bring up see what you 844 00:43:20,490 --> 00:43:19,450 guys thought about it but who knows but 845 00:43:22,020 --> 00:43:20,500 anyway 846 00:43:24,990 --> 00:43:22,030 you know I did get it still at the 847 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:25,000 beginning stages yo-yo oh yeah I mean 848 00:43:28,140 --> 00:43:26,530 it's just like everything else I mean 849 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:28,150 and we're still trying to figure out 850 00:43:33,839 --> 00:43:31,930 what's been going on out there and I 851 00:43:36,839 --> 00:43:33,849 think we're gonna be we're gonna be 852 00:43:40,260 --> 00:43:36,849 hearing a lot of stuff over the next 853 00:43:43,500 --> 00:43:40,270 whenever you know we never imagined this 854 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:43,510 thing would continue the way it did you 855 00:43:47,490 --> 00:43:45,130 know the first thing we thought of well 856 00:43:48,810 --> 00:43:47,500 it's Chicago winters come there like 857 00:43:51,510 --> 00:43:48,820 this thing's not going to show up 858 00:43:53,339 --> 00:43:51,520 because of the weather and low and 859 00:43:55,830 --> 00:43:53,349 behold last winter we started getting on 860 00:43:58,710 --> 00:43:55,840 butts of sightings and it's kind of run 861 00:44:00,690 --> 00:43:58,720 into this winter - you know these 862 00:44:04,710 --> 00:44:00,700 sightings in an erratic AAG I'm gonna 863 00:44:07,650 --> 00:44:04,720 round the airport started on October 1st 864 00:44:12,270 --> 00:44:07,660 and since then we've had God how many 865 00:44:14,730 --> 00:44:12,280 say 8 or 9 sightings in so you know I 866 00:44:17,609 --> 00:44:14,740 don't know you know it's just like it's 867 00:44:19,410 --> 00:44:17,619 just anything else that so who knows you 868 00:44:20,849 --> 00:44:19,420 know we get involved in this kind of 869 00:44:23,490 --> 00:44:20,859 thing you know you never know what to 870 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:23,500 expect so I have a question in the chat 871 00:44:31,579 --> 00:44:28,570 room someone asked Joseph s if there had 872 00:44:35,820 --> 00:44:31,589 been a any Boggy Creek sightings lately 873 00:44:40,470 --> 00:44:35,830 now I have had some sightings in 874 00:44:44,609 --> 00:44:40,480 Arkansas I had a witness call me the 875 00:44:48,210 --> 00:44:44,619 other day about a sighting Northam 876 00:44:50,940 --> 00:44:48,220 Phalke and I have over the years 877 00:44:53,670 --> 00:44:50,950 received other sightings I don't know 878 00:44:55,609 --> 00:44:53,680 now you're in Mississippi Marcus have 879 00:44:59,460 --> 00:44:55,619 you heard of anything in that direction 880 00:45:02,310 --> 00:44:59,470 actually I have I have one of my best 881 00:45:05,310 --> 00:45:02,320 friends he's not he's not an 882 00:45:06,839 --> 00:45:05,320 investigator you know like us or 883 00:45:09,839 --> 00:45:06,849 anything like that but you know he loves 884 00:45:15,349 --> 00:45:09,849 he loves the mystery and and you know he 885 00:45:20,310 --> 00:45:15,359 enjoys you know I guess you know he I 886 00:45:24,410 --> 00:45:20,320 think he vicariously you know deals with 887 00:45:26,609 --> 00:45:24,420 our go zone you know the the bigfooting 888 00:45:28,950 --> 00:45:26,619 expeditions and and paranormal 889 00:45:31,079 --> 00:45:28,960 investigations that i go through because 890 00:45:31,579 --> 00:45:31,089 he doesn't want to get attacked or eaten 891 00:45:33,499 --> 00:45:31,589 by big 892 00:45:36,229 --> 00:45:33,509 so hey you know he's like okay you go 893 00:45:39,519 --> 00:45:36,239 ahead you know what you know you go 894 00:45:41,930 --> 00:45:39,529 ahead you get ate up by mosquitoes and 895 00:45:43,370 --> 00:45:41,940 you know I'll stay back here and then 896 00:45:45,229 --> 00:45:43,380 you can call me and tell me about it if 897 00:45:51,229 --> 00:45:45,239 you make it back and I'm like yeah sure 898 00:45:55,219 --> 00:45:51,239 thanks a lot but but anyway he he got a 899 00:45:57,319 --> 00:45:55,229 wild hair and the wife went off in one 900 00:45:58,910 --> 00:45:57,329 direction and she's like yeah sure go do 901 00:46:00,680 --> 00:45:58,920 whatever you want to so he grabbed a 902 00:46:03,049 --> 00:46:00,690 couple of his buddies and they did a 903 00:46:05,930 --> 00:46:03,059 road trip to file they actually drove to 904 00:46:07,509 --> 00:46:05,940 Phalke and this was right toward I think 905 00:46:09,769 --> 00:46:07,519 it's toward the end of last year and 906 00:46:12,410 --> 00:46:09,779 when they got there of course they went 907 00:46:16,430 --> 00:46:12,420 to the monster mark and they met the 908 00:46:17,749 --> 00:46:16,440 owner and and in the process of you know 909 00:46:20,620 --> 00:46:17,759 going through the shop and everything 910 00:46:23,930 --> 00:46:20,630 they asked the owner you know hey is uh 911 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:23,940 do do do are there still sightings and 912 00:46:28,700 --> 00:46:25,410 all like that you know they take place 913 00:46:31,479 --> 00:46:28,710 around here and this guy proceeded to 914 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:31,489 tell him that just within the last week 915 00:46:40,690 --> 00:46:35,249 that someone had seen something you know 916 00:46:43,249 --> 00:46:40,700 down close to to the river so so yeah 917 00:46:46,249 --> 00:46:43,259 you know and and I kind of keep it with 918 00:46:48,709 --> 00:46:46,259 wild Blackburn's work and according to 919 00:46:50,630 --> 00:46:48,719 him and from what a little bit I'm come 920 00:46:52,609 --> 00:46:50,640 actually getting from people that that 921 00:46:59,719 --> 00:46:52,619 are in the Phalke area I have another 922 00:47:01,940 --> 00:46:59,729 lady who she's not only the field team 923 00:47:05,479 --> 00:47:01,950 you know with myself and Doug Randell 924 00:47:07,910 --> 00:47:05,489 and Kerri and Randall with invest but 925 00:47:09,769 --> 00:47:07,920 but she's like a member of our little 926 00:47:12,620 --> 00:47:09,779 group she has her own group over in 927 00:47:15,769 --> 00:47:12,630 Texas but but she goes out into the 928 00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:15,779 field and researches and she's actually 929 00:47:20,839 --> 00:47:18,690 from the file carrier and we'll get to 930 00:47:24,979 --> 00:47:20,849 picking with each other on Facebook and 931 00:47:26,870 --> 00:47:24,989 stuff but I'll have to ask her if if 932 00:47:29,660 --> 00:47:26,880 she's heard anything but to answer the 933 00:47:33,319 --> 00:47:29,670 question from the chat room the activity 934 00:47:36,019 --> 00:47:33,329 in and around file is is is very much 935 00:47:38,839 --> 00:47:36,029 still taking place there's no question 936 00:47:41,180 --> 00:47:38,849 about that yeah I've got on 937 00:47:43,430 --> 00:47:41,190 I've got wild coming on the show and in 938 00:47:44,339 --> 00:47:43,440 about a month he's got a new book coming 939 00:47:46,620 --> 00:47:44,349 out 940 00:47:47,849 --> 00:47:46,630 I don't know quite frankly I don't even 941 00:47:50,009 --> 00:47:47,859 know what the books about but I know 942 00:47:53,450 --> 00:47:50,019 he's been in Falken lot lately 943 00:48:01,620 --> 00:47:53,460 now of course he did the narration on 944 00:48:03,809 --> 00:48:01,630 set Breedlove's boggy creek film from a 945 00:48:06,809 --> 00:48:03,819 year and a half ago and of course he's 946 00:48:09,420 --> 00:48:06,819 down there all the time so you know i'm 947 00:48:14,549 --> 00:48:09,430 gonna ask him about that and what he's 948 00:48:17,460 --> 00:48:14,559 been finding down in that in area so you 949 00:48:18,779 --> 00:48:17,470 know it's an interesting question i you 950 00:48:22,140 --> 00:48:18,789 know i have reached like i said i 951 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:22,150 receive reports occasionally from from 952 00:48:28,769 --> 00:48:25,690 arkansas and i do have i do have this 953 00:48:33,359 --> 00:48:28,779 one i'm looking into now and in fact i 954 00:48:38,009 --> 00:48:33,369 got i got one today from a little town 955 00:48:41,130 --> 00:48:38,019 in not far from Baton Rouge of something 956 00:48:44,729 --> 00:48:41,140 that's making a hell of a racket near 957 00:48:46,789 --> 00:48:44,739 this little town so hopefully I'm gonna 958 00:48:56,009 --> 00:48:46,799 get some photos from Mara the woman said 959 00:48:59,190 --> 00:48:56,019 she actually did see a large nest of 960 00:49:01,289 --> 00:48:59,200 some type that was built in the area and 961 00:49:04,079 --> 00:49:01,299 there seems to be from what she told me 962 00:49:08,059 --> 00:49:04,089 there's an abandoned house out in the 963 00:49:10,489 --> 00:49:08,069 mountainous scrub out in the woods that 964 00:49:13,799 --> 00:49:10,499 people think that this thing is actually 965 00:49:15,539 --> 00:49:13,809 hiding it occasionally so there's 966 00:49:17,729 --> 00:49:15,549 something going on out there so 967 00:49:21,029 --> 00:49:17,739 hopefully I'm get some more information 968 00:49:24,450 --> 00:49:21,039 about that now we had another question 969 00:49:27,809 --> 00:49:24,460 about spirit orbs and of course the 970 00:49:29,339 --> 00:49:27,819 connection with cryptids and is it 971 00:49:32,959 --> 00:49:29,349 possible that these cryptids may be 972 00:49:36,479 --> 00:49:32,969 producing the this orb phenomena well 973 00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:36,489 frankly I believe they they do and I've 974 00:49:41,180 --> 00:49:39,249 said before on the show that you know 975 00:49:45,150 --> 00:49:41,190 this is something that we've been 976 00:49:47,219 --> 00:49:45,160 noticing in recent years with Bigfoot 977 00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:47,229 activity that there does seem to be some 978 00:49:53,579 --> 00:49:51,249 corresponding orb activity as well even 979 00:49:56,999 --> 00:49:53,589 after the you know a couple days after 980 00:49:57,900 --> 00:49:57,009 the a sighting this orb phenomena seems 981 00:50:02,640 --> 00:49:57,910 to stay 982 00:50:05,130 --> 00:50:02,650 in the area and of course tobias mention 983 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:05,140 a lawyer dad up at Kettle Moraine 984 00:50:12,930 --> 00:50:08,490 they've been they've had that as well so 985 00:50:15,210 --> 00:50:12,940 have any you uh experienced that is for 986 00:50:16,260 --> 00:50:15,220 I heard that in any other sightings that 987 00:50:17,579 --> 00:50:16,270 you've been involved with 988 00:50:26,010 --> 00:50:17,589 how about it Lou have you heard that 989 00:50:28,620 --> 00:50:26,020 before no how about a Marcus I've heard 990 00:50:33,720 --> 00:50:28,630 of it I personally have not witnessed it 991 00:50:37,910 --> 00:50:33,730 but again one of one of the primary 992 00:50:42,870 --> 00:50:37,920 focuses that researcher in him 993 00:50:44,099 --> 00:50:42,880 investigator MK Davis focuses on and I 994 00:50:46,349 --> 00:50:44,109 think there's a you know I personally 995 00:50:46,980 --> 00:50:46,359 agree with it and it you know seen it 996 00:50:49,609 --> 00:50:46,990 myself 997 00:50:54,630 --> 00:50:49,619 there's a lot of credence in a 998 00:50:57,809 --> 00:50:54,640 connection between Bigfoot and Native 999 00:51:01,020 --> 00:50:57,819 American Indian grounds I think they did 1000 00:51:03,150 --> 00:51:01,030 on the other show that that there is 1001 00:51:05,039 --> 00:51:03,160 there is a connection between the Native 1002 00:51:06,809 --> 00:51:05,049 American Indians and Bigfoot they I 1003 00:51:12,240 --> 00:51:06,819 think they came up side-by-side with 1004 00:51:17,010 --> 00:51:12,250 each other and MK has related cases to 1005 00:51:19,289 --> 00:51:17,020 me or instances where orbs and lights 1006 00:51:22,410 --> 00:51:19,299 have been seen around Indian mounds 1007 00:51:25,170 --> 00:51:22,420 either before or after a Bigfoot 1008 00:51:27,930 --> 00:51:25,180 sighting has taken place around Indian 1009 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:27,940 mounds so I've heard of it I haven't 1010 00:51:35,150 --> 00:51:31,450 witnessed it myself but lord knows I've 1011 00:51:38,730 --> 00:51:35,160 had plenty of weird activity around yeah 1012 00:51:41,039 --> 00:51:38,740 but but yeah I mean you know you're 1013 00:51:43,279 --> 00:51:41,049 right on there there there there are 1014 00:51:46,319 --> 00:51:43,289 cases out there of that happening sure 1015 00:51:48,559 --> 00:51:46,329 about Tobias do you think I'm pretty 1016 00:51:53,370 --> 00:51:48,569 sure you believe there's connection I 1017 00:51:57,150 --> 00:51:53,380 mean yes absolutely I just find it 1018 00:52:01,769 --> 00:51:57,160 really difficult to believe that you 1019 00:52:05,549 --> 00:52:01,779 would have this anomalous phenomena 1020 00:52:08,180 --> 00:52:05,559 happening in such tight window areas and 1021 00:52:11,310 --> 00:52:08,190 and and that it just wouldn't be 1022 00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:11,320 connected somehow 1023 00:52:18,750 --> 00:52:13,410 especially considering some of the other 1024 00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:18,760 seemingly paranormal aspects of cryptid 1025 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:21,850 you know sighting reports I mean I I had 1026 00:52:30,390 --> 00:52:26,650 a lady I I talked to a boy it was last 1027 00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:30,400 year sometime and and you know she had 1028 00:52:39,690 --> 00:52:35,890 seen these this series of white lights 1029 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:39,700 up up on this this mountaintop and and 1030 00:52:46,770 --> 00:52:43,450 in the same area she had seen it I don't 1031 00:52:49,500 --> 00:52:46,780 know if it was like a time slip but it 1032 00:52:53,910 --> 00:52:49,510 was really it more than anything seemed 1033 00:52:58,380 --> 00:52:53,920 like this out of place out of time 1034 00:53:02,990 --> 00:52:58,390 really like bonfire with in indigenous 1035 00:53:06,150 --> 00:53:03,000 people around it you know and and then 1036 00:53:08,310 --> 00:53:06,160 later she has this this Bigfoot sighting 1037 00:53:10,620 --> 00:53:08,320 and so in and this is one of those 1038 00:53:14,730 --> 00:53:10,630 sightings where this thing just 1039 00:53:19,350 --> 00:53:14,740 seemingly vanished you know and so you 1040 00:53:22,020 --> 00:53:19,360 look at all of those connective like 1041 00:53:25,410 --> 00:53:22,030 aspects you know and and you have to ask 1042 00:53:27,870 --> 00:53:25,420 yourself like well okay if if that's not 1043 00:53:29,610 --> 00:53:27,880 connected somehow then then what is 1044 00:53:33,270 --> 00:53:29,620 going on like what are all of these 1045 00:53:36,410 --> 00:53:33,280 different various like mechanisms that 1046 00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:36,420 are are all somehow disparate well 1047 00:53:44,490 --> 00:53:40,090 replicating a phenomena that that is is 1048 00:53:47,370 --> 00:53:44,500 is so similar you know so yeah I don't 1049 00:53:50,100 --> 00:53:47,380 know what what that connection is but 1050 00:53:53,310 --> 00:53:50,110 yeah I just I I can't believe that it's 1051 00:53:57,930 --> 00:53:53,320 it's a coincidence you know I I think 1052 00:54:01,170 --> 00:53:57,940 every it seems at this point now every 1053 00:54:05,130 --> 00:54:01,180 cryptid phenomena that we have been 1054 00:54:07,830 --> 00:54:05,140 investigating for years now be a Bigfoot 1055 00:54:10,650 --> 00:54:07,840 upright canines dog matter where you 1056 00:54:13,050 --> 00:54:10,660 want to call it the wing humanoids 1057 00:54:17,460 --> 00:54:13,060 there does seem to be this 1058 00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:17,470 interdimensional or other reality aspect 1059 00:54:24,750 --> 00:54:21,130 sneaking in there somehow hmm we leave 1060 00:54:27,540 --> 00:54:24,760 we saw heard of these be 1061 00:54:28,590 --> 00:54:27,550 means suddenly appearing or suddenly 1062 00:54:31,380 --> 00:54:28,600 disappearing 1063 00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:31,390 you know without a trace I mean just a 1064 00:54:35,970 --> 00:54:34,330 quick manifestation or this thing 1065 00:54:42,180 --> 00:54:35,980 suddenly disappearing or vanishing 1066 00:54:44,910 --> 00:54:42,190 somehow you know so you know you know I 1067 00:54:46,670 --> 00:54:44,920 think decrypted world is becoming more 1068 00:54:51,260 --> 00:54:46,680 open-minded 1069 00:54:53,660 --> 00:54:51,270 and I I do believe more of the strictly 1070 00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:53,670 flesh-and-blood people are kind of 1071 00:54:58,590 --> 00:54:56,170 thinking a little bit more now like 1072 00:55:02,730 --> 00:54:58,600 maybe something is definitely going on 1073 00:55:06,810 --> 00:55:02,740 with this phenomena I don't know it is 1074 00:55:09,540 --> 00:55:06,820 an enigma so um I I guess it's you know 1075 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:09,550 the best thing I can say is just keep 1076 00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:12,970 plugging keep taking reports and maybe 1077 00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:16,690 we'll find something that will kind of 1078 00:55:25,830 --> 00:55:20,290 jive and you know hopefully we'll get 1079 00:55:29,670 --> 00:55:25,840 some proof that would be great it would 1080 00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:29,680 be so you guys you know we're about 1081 00:55:36,240 --> 00:55:33,210 ready to into show so let me start with 1082 00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:36,250 luo i saying you want to mention before 1083 00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:42,130 we go just that i'll be up in like I 1084 00:55:46,950 --> 00:55:43,690 mentioned and Gettysburg hopefully in 1085 00:55:49,110 --> 00:55:46,960 May hoping to meet up with you and Butch 1086 00:55:52,500 --> 00:55:49,120 and I think maybe we can get Eric 1087 00:55:54,270 --> 00:55:52,510 Hoffman up there as well and we can 1088 00:55:56,550 --> 00:55:54,280 shoot some more stories and you know 1089 00:55:58,560 --> 00:55:56,560 just talk about the general area I mean 1090 00:56:03,120 --> 00:55:58,570 I know out here in California mostly I 1091 00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:03,130 investigate areas around Hollywood at 1092 00:56:07,910 --> 00:56:05,050 the moment but uh it's it's kind of 1093 00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:07,920 quiet when it comes to UFOs except by 1094 00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:10,770 Santa Monica I think one of you guys 1095 00:56:17,390 --> 00:56:14,290 investigates UFOs and off the beaches of 1096 00:56:20,310 --> 00:56:17,400 Santa Monica by a certain Coast Guard 1097 00:56:21,750 --> 00:56:20,320 Station people have been seeing things 1098 00:56:23,820 --> 00:56:21,760 coming in and out of the water over 1099 00:56:27,540 --> 00:56:23,830 there so I'm trying to make my way over 1100 00:56:30,450 --> 00:56:27,550 there why he was really not yeah in fact 1101 00:56:34,140 --> 00:56:30,460 my friend Brett she's been telling me 1102 00:56:37,850 --> 00:56:34,150 that she has been talking to people that 1103 00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:37,860 have experiencing a lot of phenomena 1104 00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:42,210 in the Santa Monica area so and of 1105 00:56:47,510 --> 00:56:43,890 course you know all the UFO activity 1106 00:56:49,220 --> 00:56:47,520 I'll Catalina and yeah Santa Barbara and 1107 00:56:52,550 --> 00:56:49,230 such I mean there just seems to be a lot 1108 00:56:55,340 --> 00:56:52,560 of weird stuff going on out there let 1109 00:56:58,520 --> 00:56:55,350 alone the the tic-tac incidents that 1110 00:57:00,620 --> 00:56:58,530 were reported recently so who knows I 1111 00:57:01,070 --> 00:57:00,630 mean you know maybe we'll go get some 1112 00:57:06,310 --> 00:57:01,080 more 1113 00:57:10,340 --> 00:57:06,320 so Marcus what's going on with you and 1114 00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:10,350 what are you gonna be looking into well 1115 00:57:17,630 --> 00:57:13,410 again just recently I just recently 1116 00:57:21,260 --> 00:57:17,640 became a field investigator investigator 1117 00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:21,270 for for MUFON and again this this case 1118 00:57:27,740 --> 00:57:24,810 that happened here in in Yazoo City back 1119 00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:27,750 in the 70s you know that's kind of got 1120 00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:29,490 my attention right now again because the 1121 00:57:36,770 --> 00:57:33,330 weather so bad and you know invest you 1122 00:57:39,710 --> 00:57:36,780 know my Bigfoot group we haven't been 1123 00:57:41,930 --> 00:57:39,720 able to you know to really get in the 1124 00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:41,940 field because it's just been so it's a 1125 00:57:45,910 --> 00:57:43,890 they've been pouring down rain freezing 1126 00:57:49,430 --> 00:57:45,920 cold 1127 00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:49,440 you know just toggling back and forth so 1128 00:57:55,730 --> 00:57:51,810 you know I'm just kind of waiting I 1129 00:57:58,370 --> 00:57:55,740 think me and Doug and Karen and you know 1130 00:58:00,610 --> 00:57:58,380 MK he's like all over the place you know 1131 00:58:03,500 --> 00:58:00,620 I think we're just kind of waiting for 1132 00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:03,510 for I don't know spring something to 1133 00:58:09,710 --> 00:58:05,970 clear so maybe we can get out in the 1134 00:58:14,090 --> 00:58:09,720 woods and see what's going on but you 1135 00:58:15,950 --> 00:58:14,100 know to kind of tide me over I guess you 1136 00:58:18,740 --> 00:58:15,960 know till till something does break as 1137 00:58:21,130 --> 00:58:18,750 far as getting outdoors I'm really you 1138 00:58:24,260 --> 00:58:21,140 know that this UFO case really has my 1139 00:58:27,470 --> 00:58:24,270 undivided attention and that's that's 1140 00:58:29,300 --> 00:58:27,480 been very you know it's been fruitful 1141 00:58:32,150 --> 00:58:29,310 looking into it so far it I think there 1142 00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:32,160 I mean you know there's witnesses and 1143 00:58:35,780 --> 00:58:34,410 hopefully hopefully you know I mean I 1144 00:58:38,390 --> 00:58:35,790 don't I don't have a whole lot I can 1145 00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:38,400 tell you guys just at the moment but 1146 00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:41,370 hopefully I will hopefully I'll have 1147 00:58:47,270 --> 00:58:44,130 something that will really excite you 1148 00:58:51,170 --> 00:58:47,280 guys well hopefully I can start getting 1149 00:58:53,390 --> 00:58:51,180 some cases to send out to y'all you know 1150 00:58:54,799 --> 00:58:53,400 just has it well it's kind of royal yeah 1151 00:58:58,640 --> 00:58:54,809 you guys I've been with the group that 1152 00:59:01,970 --> 00:58:58,650 long but like I you know I will 1153 00:59:04,490 --> 00:59:01,980 distribute cases that I do receive to 1154 00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:04,500 the people in the field and hopefully 1155 00:59:09,020 --> 00:59:05,970 we'll get some answers to some of this 1156 00:59:11,510 --> 00:59:09,030 stuff and Tobias what you and I have 1157 00:59:14,390 --> 00:59:11,520 been plugging like this now for over two 1158 00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:14,400 years so you know we have we know that 1159 00:59:19,059 --> 00:59:17,010 goes so you know the all you guys I 1160 00:59:22,250 --> 00:59:19,069 appreciate you being on the team 1161 00:59:25,549 --> 00:59:22,260 appreciate you coming on the show and I 1162 00:59:26,599 --> 00:59:25,559 will be talking to y'all soon yeah 1163 00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:26,609 thanks it's harmful 1164 00:59:33,980 --> 00:59:31,530 appreciate it yes night so if you have 1165 00:59:35,839 --> 00:59:33,990 an unexplained encounter setting feel 1166 00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:35,849 free to contact me through the fans of 1167 00:59:40,010 --> 00:59:38,250 AUSA blog site if you're interested in 1168 00:59:42,349 --> 00:59:40,020 supporting fans of monsters and arcane 1169 00:59:44,510 --> 00:59:42,359 radio you can use the PayPal donation 1170 00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:44,520 buttons on the blog or newsletter go 1171 00:59:49,839 --> 00:59:47,130 directly a PayPal and use my email 1172 00:59:52,579 --> 00:59:49,849 launch Strickler fans of monsters calm 1173 00:59:55,130 --> 00:59:52,589 your continued support is truly 1174 00:59:57,260 --> 00:59:55,140 appreciated I want to again thank Tobias 1175 00:59:59,240 --> 00:59:57,270 Marcus and Lou for joining me this 1176 01:00:00,859 --> 00:59:59,250 evening and I want to thank you for 1177 01:00:10,210 --> 01:00:00,869 listening to the show good night and 1178 01:00:10,220 --> 01:00:24,420 [Music] 1179 01:00:24,430 --> 01:00:49,500 [Applause] 1180 01:00:49,510 --> 01:01:24,529 [Music]